The Lies of Locke Lamora Part I

It’s here and it’s awesome!

Please join us Scott Lynch fans over at Little Red Reviewer today to chat about the beginning  of The Lies of Locke Lamora. Little Red Reviewer has provided some awesome questions to get us all talking over tea and cake (because we can be a civilized bunch when making new friends).

1. If this is your first time reading The Lies of Locke Lamora, what do you think of it so far?  If this is a re-read for you, how does the book stand up to rereading?

This is my first time through and I am very intrigued by it so far. I definitely like how it has a real-world feel, and I enjoy the idea that this could, somewhere, somewhen, be a real story.

2. At last count, I found three time lines:  Locke as as a 20-something adult, Locke meeting Father Chains for the first time, and Locke as a younger child in Shades Hill. How are you doing with the Flashback within a flashback style of introducing characters and the world?

I enjoy flashbacks myself. Not my personal life – but in literature. I find it to be a satisfying way to feed info to the readers while still carrying them forward with the main event.

3. Speaking of the world, what do you think of Camorr and Lynch’s world building?

Every time I think I have the world down, Lynch introduces another tidbit, continuing to add depth to the world that is Camorr. This, of course, means there is going to be more oddities and mysteries, right?

4. Father Chains and the death offering. . .  quite the code of honor for thieves, isn’t it? What kind of person do you think Chains is going to mold Locke into?

Purposeful. The death offering shows the need for self-sacrifice from time to time. This is giving child Locke purpose in life.

5. It’s been a while since I (Little Red Reviewer) read this, and I’d forgotten how much of the beginning of the book is pure set up, for the characters, the plot, and the world. Generally speaking, do you prefer  set up and world building done this way, or do you prefer to be thrown into the deep end with what’s happening?

I love set up and world building so that the chipmunks that really run my mind have something to think about when I (and them) can not be reading. I am big at multitasking and having something as intricate as this story to guess upon while typing up boring reports is life-saving. What is Locke going to do next? Where is the author taking us with this or that?

6. If you’ve already started attempting to pick the pockets of your family members (or even thought about it!) raise your hand.

I stole a treat from my dog today – but I don’t think it counts because he was quite aware of my shenanigans!

Little Red Reviewer has some great answers to these questions, so don’t fail to have a peek over there. Feel free to make snarky comments here as well.

The author himself has provided another behind-the-scenes post at his livejournal site:

http://scott-lynch.livejournal.com/271036.html

And check out these other blogs and what they think of the book so far:

Nashville Book Worm
Dark Cargo
Rose’s Thingamajig
Felix Pearce
Books Without any Pictures
Lynn’s Book Blog
Geeky Daddy
Scruffy Fiction
Vilutheril Reviews
Booky Pony
Tethyan Books
Paperless Reading
Beware of the Froggies
John Ayliff
My Awful Reviews
Just Book Reading
Kaitharshayr’s Musings
All I Am – A Redhead
Realbooks4ever
Coffee, Cookies and Chili Peppers

Travels through Iest
Logan K Stewart
Hugo Endurance Project
Lisa Pizza
Dark Cargo Explorer

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11 thoughts on “The Lies of Locke Lamora Part I

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  2. I think it’s great how he is building the world bit by bit, area by area, and giving each info-blurb a purpose. this area is a ghetto because there was a big fire, and they never rebuilt.. . . this area is where all the rich people live because it stinks the least. . this area is an abandoned cemetery. . . so much cool details!

    and where is Lynch going to take you next? a ha ha! that’s the best part! :D

  3. Am I going to be the only voice of dissent during this reading? I’m personally finding it tedious. Like overly tedious. I’m not that far (yet) as Locke has just been turned over to Father Chains, but I’m personally finding the jumping around incredibly annoying.

    It’s like the author is going out of his way to try to get us engaged in the story by forcing us to be told snippets of Locke’s early life. You’ve got the Thiefmaker explaining how he needs to get rid of Locke with all these terrible things he did. “Oh, wait until you hear about what ELSE he did…” and then a bit of flash forward. Then “Oh, he did this, but that’s not the reason why I have to get rid of him, wait until you hear THIS…”

    We get it, he’s precocious. Just tell us what he did, don’t try to get us so engaged in wondering what he did that we need to read something else to get our anticipation up. It reminds me of how Dan Brown has these incredibly short chapters that he has to leave every one on a cliff-hanger because he feels like if he doesn’t the book isn’t interesting. (To be fair, Dan Brown’s books probably would be less interesting if he didn’t do that.) However from what it seems about Scott Lynch’s world that he’s managed to create and set up, he doesn’t need to do that, and he is, and it’s really grating on my nerves.

    Honestly, I feel like it’s attempting to do what “The Name of the Wind” does, but with a lot less effect. Clearly they both were out around the same time, so I know one isn’t the copy of the other, but at least Patrick Rothfuss kept it interesting by allowing the reader to know there was some sort of mysterious background to the main character and his apprentice without having to blatantly spell it out, like Scott Lynch does with Locke. It’s the difference between a story growing organically, and a story being forced upon you. It’s almost as if he had this great idea for a middle of a story (which he might, I haven’t gotten there yet), but had absolutely no idea how to introduce anything, so tried to do it this way.

    I’m still going with it though, it’s not as terrible as some stories that I’ve read. It is just very irritating to have to wade through the tedious backstory instead of just letting it come naturally.

    Oh, and I hate when people use the word “bemuse” in a book. I think it’s a great word, but unfortunately, I’ve seen it used wrong way too many times. Every time I see it, I try to determine whether they mean it to mean what it really means, puzzled or bewildered, or just using it because they think it’s a cooler version of the word “amuse”. I couldn’t tell from the context. If I try to put puzzled or bewildered in, it almost makes sense, but not quiet. If he was puzzled about where the huge amount of money came from, he’d probably ask. He’s the Thiefmaker after all, and he needs to know what’s going on in his realm. It makes more sense that he would probably be amused by the situation until they burned down the inn, but again, it doesn’t really fit either. Wry amusement maybe fits better, but then why use the word bemused? Pick words that better describe what you want it to be, instead of cool and trendy words that seem to be in every novel these days.

    Sorry, my rant is now over. I’m hoping that once I get further into the story, the tediousness of the introduction disappears. However, I’m usually one of those people that gives up early on if the beginning of a novel is awful. I know the book is likely to get better, but if it doesn’t grab me by the balls from the beginning, I get bored very easily. That’s why I never read Game of Thrones. The beginning of the first book was BO-RING.

    • I like the ‘grab you by the balls’ part of your rant. I hope you stick with the book and I hope it comes to entertain you. But don’t hurt yourself over it. If this book isn’t for you, it isn’t for you. And besides, you’re on a different continent and I can’t really force it upon your eyeballs ;)

      • Strangely enough once I got past the prologue (or whatever the hell that introduction crap was), it got insanely better. I’m absolutely flummoxed about what the hell the introduction was all about. The first line of Chapter one was spot on for that first line of a book to grab you by the balls and draw you in. It really was. So why was there all this introduction? It’s almost as if the editor (or publisher) thought it would be too confusing to just start there and felt there needed some back story tacked on. Because that’s what it felt like to me, some sort of weird tack-on introduction. In fact, I’m kind of annoyed, because the tack-on introduction brings up the awful thing he did to get kicked off the hill. But it’s STILL not explained. I think I would have preferred if it got brought up later. I’m trying to pretend the first part of the book didn’t happen while reading it now, but it’s a bit hard to do that, you know?

  4. Gosh, you stole a treat from your dog… I hope you didn’t eat it, it’s not good for your health ;)
    Camorr is still full of unknown mysteries, it’s wonderful how even past half of the book we still discover amazing things about the city. I’m glad you enjoy the story!

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